APOC THE RELUCTANT MGTOW, was married 13 years, and ex military, joins the show with DDJ as they address some of the controversy and misconceptions about MGTOW. APOC shares a horror story about rape allegations towards one of his peers and how the good ol’ Duluth Model cucks its way to the finish line concerning domestic violence.

APOC shares about his minimal contact with women and his concerns with having false allegations brought his way, and why he went MGTOW.

The two address how to deal with hypergamy and whether to advertise whether or not you are MGTOW. DDJ and APOC give advice on divorce and they give some tips on how to deal with the emotional fallout the divorce machine elicits  and proper copy mechanisms. Believe it or not, grieving is ok.